High River United Church
 Facility Planning History

 

Crossings: A time to build and grow

Building and Financial Plans Approved

Frequently Asked Questions

 

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There's no place like home!

  "Our place of help, home and hope"
 

We are now back home

 in our revitalized church facility at:


 
 123 Macleod Trail South
High River, Alberta
(across from the post office)

 

Building Team Final Barbeque
August 2008

 

Crossings:

a time to build and grow 

The following is now history, but interesting reading!

Facility renewal for High River United Church

      In 2003, the High River United Church congregation passed a Strategic Plan that included a review of our facility and a goal of renewing the facility in order to better serve the ministry and mission of our church.   During that process, we became aware that several areas of our current facility were in need of significant repair, were not meeting ministry needs and/or were not providing necessary space or service in order to enhance our congregation’s mission.

Several needs were expressed:

  • A building that is more accessible for those who find stairs difficult or impossible

  • A main floor kitchen

  • More useable meeting space

  • Space for at least 100 more people in sanctuary, in order to grow the congregation. Our sanctuary is already at 80% capacity and research shows it will not grow once this capacity has been reached.

  • Repairs due to the building’s age -- including the bell tower, roof, heating system, and electrical systems -- are a constant challenge for the property committee

  • A plan for growth, given High River’s growing population. United Church people are moving to town and looking for a church home.

     After more than one year of consulting with our many groups, program leaders, staff, board and executive, an architectural firm, Woods Parker Architects, was recommended by our Facility Planning Team, and hired by the Board, to help create a building plan that addresses current needs and makes room for future growth.

     The floor plan shown was recommended by the Facility Planning Team, approved by HRUC Board and by HRUC congregation at the Congregational meeting held December 11, 2005.  The floor plan and exterior views are subject to minor adjustments but give you an accurate footprint of what the building will look like.

Cost: Approximately $1.98 Million. A Financial Team is in place and is working on the Financial Plan that was approved on December 11, 2005. Bonnie Hewson is the convener of this team.

The Facility includes these new features:

  • Entire facility is on one level, eliminating all stairs.

  • Sanctuary will seat 320 – primary use will be for worship.

  • Chapel off the main sanctuary – this space will also be used as choir rehearsal space. It will be available for small weddings, small funerals, speakers, Bible Study and as an overflow area for larger groups in the sanctuary.

  • Sound system for main sanctuary with capability to provide sound to the Chapel, Hall, Parlour, Children’s Worship area and outdoors – to be used if required.

  • Hall that will accommodate seating for approximately 190 people as well as providing a multi-purpose space.

  • Kitchen adequate to meet needs of a growing congregation and community.

  • Children’s Worship space – Sunday morning gathering space as well as space for use by other groups during the week, i.e. Beavers, Guides, Brownies, Tai Chi.

  • Dedicated youth space.

  • Parlour – about 10 to 15 feet wider than the current Parlour.

  • Healing Ministry (2 rooms) – these are rooms that will also be used for small groups (max. 10) such as Grief Support, Prayer Circle, Adult Day Support, Bible Studies, church committees.

  • Nursery looking into the sanctuary.

  • Library – available for small group meetings.

  • Office Area – 2 ministers’ offices, youth ministry office, reception, workroom, 2nd work station, counseling room.

  • Memorial Garden that can be viewed from chapel and Healing Ministry area and accessed from the west entrance.

  • Storage space off sanctuary for choir, banners, bell choir.

  • Storage space off Hall. Other storage areas have been designed within the various rooms, as required.

  • Accessible washrooms with multi-stalls.

  • Coat hanging area away from front door, to avoid congestion.

  • West access from parking spaces.

  • Heating units are located on the roof.

  • Parking – further parking stalls will be developed along the back. Town of High River parking code requirements are 1 stall for every 7 people designated to use the facility.

  • Many rooms provide the flexibility to be multi-purpose in use.

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Building and Financial Plans Approved

at the Foothills Presbytery Meeting January 24, 2006

 

Foothills Presbytery, at a regular meeting held at Okotoks January 24, 2006, approved the HRUC building project as presented .  It was pointed out that the project would have to be brought back to Presbytery for final approval after the fund raising program and the financial plan, with borrowing details, is complete.

Foothills Presbytery also approved the use of the Manse Fund of $85,000 for the building project.

 

Building and Financial Plans Approved
at a Special Congregational Meeting December 11, 2005

High River United Church will proceed with a $2 million building project once all financial commitments are in place to pay for it.

            At a special congregational meeting on December 11th, the congregation approved three motions related to the project to rebuild the sanctuary to make it larger, to put the entire building on one floor and to conduct major renovations to the upper hall portion.

            After more than three hours of information presentations and question-answer sessions, the 83 members in attendance were given the opportunity to vote by secret ballot on these three motions after they were moved, seconded and discussed: 

  • That the congregation approve the renewed facility building plan for High River United Church as presented.

  • That the congregation approve the Financial Plan as presented.

  • That High River United Church proceed with the building plan only upon having firm commitments for the funds needed to complete the project.

             The Board executive will meet soon to take the necessary steps to forward the decision to our Trustees, who in turn will refer the congregation’s decision to Foothills Presbytery for approval.

            As specified in the third motion, construction will not begin until we have firm commitments for the funds needed to complete the project.

            The Financial Plan approved on December 11th includes: $1 million to be raised from the congregation; $265,350 from pledges received to date; $85,000 from sale of the manse; $180,000 from Special Gifts; $4,000 from a Presbytery grant; and a mortgage of $498,170.

            A facility stewardship campaign will begin in January, under the able direction of Marg Fenton and Harder and Associates, the firm we’ve hired to guide this program.

The Board thanks the dozens of people who contributed hundreds of volunteer hours to bring it to this stage.

We acknowledge that some members opposed the project. We promise to consider your feelings as we work our way through this construction plan.

I hope that, now that we have the congregation’s approval, we can all work together to bring this plan to a successful conclusion for the benefit of present and future congregations.


Bruce Masterman
Board Chair

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Frequently Asked Questions

"Glory to God whose power at work within us can accomplish
infinitely more than we can ask for or imagine!" (Ephesians 3:20)

CONGREGATION STATISTICS

It is important that there be open communication throughout the congregation as we move through the process of meeting Goal 2.1 from the Strategic Plan adopted by the congregation in September 2003, "To provide a church facility that will fit the needs of a growing, vibrant and dynamic congregation." As the Facility Planning Team talks with people there are a few questions that we have been hearing over and over again. We welcome further dialogue on any of them. We have asked Rev. Susan to offer some reflections on each question:

1. What led to the decision to make our church building a goal of the Strategic Plan 2003?

We love our church. We have wonderful memories of children baptized, Christmas concerts, grandchildren married, loved ones buried. It is our faith home and is dear to us. As with any home, there comes a time when updates, repairs and changes need to be made.

The sanctuary part of our building is 55 years old. The upper hall part of our building is 45 years old. Over the last few years, the church has begun showing its age in many ways. Just as running a business or a farm has changed dramatically in the past 55 years, so the way we use our church building to carry out our mission and ministry has changed. In the past few years, the church board noticed that they were receiving many requests concerning the building. The board decided to recommend to the congregation that we develop an overall plan for the building rather than dealing with these issues one by one. Some of the concerns that have been raised:

These are just some of the items that have come to the board’s attention concerning our facility.

God does not want us to do extraordinary things.
God wants us to do the ordinary things extraordinarily well.

Charles Gore, 19th Century

2. What can we expect to experience as we move through this process together?

As we talk together about what needs to be done with our building, each of us can expect to feel many different emotions: anxiety, excitement, concern, anticipation, frustration, hopefulness, anger, joy, guilt, pride, etc. Memories might begin surfacing; some joyful, some sad and some frustrating. This building has been the place of many important occasions in our lives, and so there can be feelings of grief as we begin to talk about changing our building in some way. There can also be feelings of fear because, at this point, we do not know what the final outcome will be. It is important that we work with each other respectfully as we go through this process, making room for everyone’s ideas, feelings and concerns. We expect everyone will continue to use Holy Manners throughout this process.

Holy Manners

  1. We will express respectfully, openly and honestly our ideas and feelings to the appropriate person, such as the chair of the Facility Planning Team, the chair of the Board and the ministers; we will not complain or gossip to other people rather than talking to the appropriate person.
  2. We will share our ideas knowing that what we can create together is better than any one of us can imagine alone; we will not give ultimatums such as "I won’t come to church again if…"
  3. We will pray for our congregation, for the Facility Planning Team, for the Board and for each other as we go through this process, always being open to how God is guiding us to create a facility that enables us to be part of God’s presence in this community.
  4. We will listen to other peoples’ ideas and feelings with respect and with curiosity, acknowledging how they feel about a certain issue without judging their thoughts or feelings.
  5. We will look for value in each person’s ideas, knowing that no one person has all the answers.
  6. We will acknowledge and appreciate others for past and present contributions.
  7. We will trust that God’s power at work among us can accomplish abundantly more than all we could ask for or imagine.

3. How many people can be seated in our sanctuary?

People may remember the time when our sanctuary was filled to overflowing, the balcony and back room full and chairs in the aisles. With that in mind, it is hard to believe that we are at capacity in our sanctuary right now. The reality for 2005 is that we can not expect our Sunday attendance to grow with the space we have right now. Here are the reasons based on research done by the Alban Institute, a group respected for its congregational research:

4. Would a second Sunday morning worship service be a solution?

A second Sunday worship service would not address the issues connected with our building named in question #1. It would address seating capacity for worship but it is not an easy solution. A second worship service is a costly endeavour for a congregation and would require a clear choice by the congregation that they are willing to invest their time and energy in a second service.

Basically, having 2 worship services means having 2 congregations using the same facility and the same infrastructure in terms of board and committees. For our congregation to begin a 2nd Sunday morning worship service, we would need to be committed to dividing into 2 groups who would worship separately and provide the people resources for each service. We would need to negotiate the times for these two services (9:00 and 11:00 or 9:30 and 11:30 or ???)

We would need two sets of greeters, two sets of readers, two sets of sound people, two sets of musicians and so on. We would need to decide if we would have a choir at both services or only at one service and then which one. We would need to plan Sunday School or some type of children’s activities for both services. Would our beloved Soup and Bun be held after the second service? What would people from the first service do and where would they gather as the 2nd service people start arriving?

We would also need a larger entry way to allow for two sets of people coming and going. On Christmas Eve, we manage 3 services because the building clears out within 5 minutes as people have other activities to attend. On Sunday morning, people want to visit and to plan for activities and so might be around for up to an hour. We also would need to juggle parking to allow for two sets of people coming and going.

The ministers would have the easy job if the same service was repeated, but if the congregation desired two different styles of worship, then it would require more ministerial time for worship planning and sermon preparation.

When the Facility Planning Team discussed the possibility of two services, one comment was, "But I want to be with everyone. There is more energy in worship that way."

As we continue to respond to our growing community, sometime in the future we will need to plan for a second Sunday morning service. (Note: we already have a 2nd worship service that happens on Wednesday evenings.) To have the people power to begin a 2nd Sunday service, we would need a regular Sunday attendance of about 250 or more at one service.

5. Is our church accessible for those with physical challenges?

Parts of our church were built before most accessibility issues were being named. A lift installed on the staircase does allow access to all three levels of our church. However, as we listen to people we have discovered that there are many who are not comfortable using the lift.

Take a moment to imagine yourself at a point in your life when you might be finding it more difficult to walk, using canes or in a wheelchair. Think carefully about how you would feel waiting for someone to be found to run the lift, then riding the lift and flipping around the corner at the entry way level. Ramps work well for those in wheel chairs. Imagine walking up a long ramp with canes or a walker. We want our congregation to be a place of help, home and hope for every person who chooses to worship with us. We want to respect the dignity of each person and make all of our spaces easily accessible for those with varying physical challenges.

Our religious spaces make room for our spiritual selves to emerge, for sacred stories to be told, and life-giving practices to be learned. They make room for us to meet God, rekindle hope, experience self-emptying love and face the dark side of our humanness with the light of grace. From these places, justice, mercy and healing are set loose in the world. James P. Wind in Congregation Spring 2003

6. Is it cheaper to renovate or to re-build?

Sometimes it is cheaper to renovate. Sometimes it is cheaper to rebuild. The important thing is that we end up with a facility that supports the mission and ministry of our congregation in the community of High River. We have a wonderful opportunity to create a facility that will be a gift to our congregation, to our community, to our downtown area and to the next generations. By dealing with the problems we face in our facility now, we avoid passing those problems on to people 5, 10 or 25 years down the road. In the past 120 years, our congregation has called 7 different buildings home. Previous generations have made the decisions of renovating, building new and adding-on as appropriate to the mission and ministry of the congregation at the time. It has been said over and over by this congregation, "We have not been afraid to risk; and those risks have worked well for us."

As we work with the architect and with input from the congregation, we trust that the answer will be clear about whether it is better stewardship of our resources to renovate what we have, to build new, or to do some combination of the two. The congregation will have final say on such a decision. Whether we renovate or re-build, we need to remember that we can have a facility that has the things we love about our present church…the bell tower, the open beams and, of course, the stained glass windows. At the congregational gathering on October 31st, 2004, the question was asked, "What do you value most about our present church?" The first answer given, "The people!" That is our most valuable asset.

7. What does the plan for the building look like?

We don’t know. We are gathering input from every group that is part of the congregation as well as from our user groups and from individuals. We are considering "green" options. We are interviewing architects. The architect will work with the Facility Planning Team and with congregational groups to develop an initial plan for our facility that best meets the stated needs for mission and ministry. This initial plan will be brought to the congregation for approval, possibly as soon as Spring 2005. As a congregation, we will decide whether we will proceed with simple renovations, more extensive renovations/additions or building a new facility.

8. How will we pay for this building project?

The board is in process of establishing a team of people who will look at the various ways that we can fund this project including grants and loans that might be available to us and fundraising within the community. The greatest task of the team will be to help people in our extended congregation consider how much they can generously and appropriately give to the project. If you have suggestions of people to help on this team, please refer their names to Bruce Masterman (652-3750)

  1. Will we have pews or chairs?

This is a decision that we will make together as we move through this process. Both have advantages:

10. Who do I talk to about my ideas and feelings concerning the facility?

Rev. Susan is working most closely with the Facility Planning Team at this point.

Chair: Joy Duncan (652-7870)

Al Buehler
Art Cave
Dawn Giles
Ayla Graham
Blair Gordon
Wally Kemp
Helen McIntyre
Jo Parsons
Murray Williamson

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